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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 13 Sep 93       Volume 11 : Issue 181

Today's Topics:

      "from" -> ">From" (A)
      (A) MacAquarium - where can
      (A) Problems Printing Posts
      (Q) Getting MacTCP Address
      3D rendering software opinions wanted
      bootp for the Mac?
      Cable Quadra 700<->NEC 6FG 21"
      Colored MSWORD5.1a Bar
      Cross Referencing in Word
      Debinhexing on DOS machines?
      Default editor for TEXT files [R]
      Double Fonts in 7.1
      Duo/Resolve Index() problem [Q]
      DynoPage 2.0 Problem
      Electromagnetic Shielding f
      Ethernet-SCSI-adapters and MacTCP (Summary)
      European Apple CD-SC on 110V ?
      Excel problem w/32-bit addressing
      Fonts with unusual symbols
      font with... [A]
      FTP via SLIP
      Getting rid of Balloon help
      Ghost external floppy drive--help!
      GML translator???
      Greater than signs in e-mail
      How to connect 2 LC III's to both modem and Grayshare printer (A)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #180 (2 msgs)
      Is THINK C 6.0 really that bad?
      Looking For: Golf Scoring Program
      Mac emulator on Silicon Graphics running IRIX 5 Indy (Answer)
      MacTCP 1.1 and System 7.1 (A)
      MacTCP and 7.1
      Modem Choice
      More strange problems printing pictures in Word 5.0
      Multi-platform compression programs? [Q]
      Need assistance...
      new disk drives - apple propoganda
      Old Weird IIci
      PowerBook 180c
      QuickBASIC for Mac
      reference points in Word
      Send PS to LW 310? (Q)
      ShowPages replacement?
      Size of System File
      Sound Manager 3.0 problem (R)
      Sound Viewer
      Sumex directory organisation (complaint) (C)
      sumex directory organization (complaint) (A)
      Summary: advise on small MAC/PC network
      System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting
      The Well
      URGENT ADB KEYBOARD PROBLEMS! HELP! (A) (C)
      Word, Nisus, others for Thesis(A)
      Word processors
      Write Now and Nisus

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:43:42 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Steve Strassmann)
Subject: "from" -> ">From" (A)

   Date: 10 Sep 1993 09:01:31 -0500
   From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
   Subject: A dumb question?

   I've noticed that when I read the digests (with Easy View 2.33, but of
   course...) certain words have "greater than" signs concatenated to their
   immediate left. For example, the word "from" comes out ">From". Other words
   (which don't quickly come to mind) do the same thing. Is this something
   you'all do, or is it something Easy View does? Is it performed to
   distinguish regular "From"s from header "from"s?

This brain damage is due to unix. The unix sendmail program, on which
most of the internet is now based, does not, and never has, properly
implemented the internet email standards (RFC822 & friends). Like most
of unix, people have come to accept and (if you're extraordinarily lucky)
document the bogosity rather than fix the implementations. It is now
endemic that you cannot trust email to even send 7-bit ascii reliably
without encrypting it first with something like uuencode or binhex.

Since unix is too stupid to remember where the real headers are, it turns
"from" to ">From" in the text body. You can see this corruption in
publications like the ACM to which authors submit articles by email.
Look for those wonderful upside-down (Spanish) question marks in the
text, which is what LaTeX does to the ">" character.

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:58:09 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) MacAquarium - where can

     (A) MacAquarium - where can I get the plans?
[e-mail] (Ng Kim Guan) asks:

>Please help. I have been searching for the plans to convert an old
>compact Mac to an aquarium with no success. Have tried archie and WAIS
>with no success. Found a lead using Veronica, but got a message to say
>that the posts had been moved to tape and were not accessible.
>
>If someone knows how to get hold of the plans, please mail me!

Check at sumex:  /info-mac/info/hdwr/macquarium.hqx

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:26:44 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) Problems Printing Posts

     (A) Problems Printing Postscript File
MG John Fryer <[e-mail]> asks:

> I need help in determining how to print a postscript file of the  Internet
> I downloaded from ftp. merit. edu last night (called world.  ps).  I  have
> tried printing with the utility, "SendPS, " but it tells me  it  "Couldn't
> open the printer driver"  and  that  there  is  a  "Chooser  error:  can't
> determine the name of the printer. " My  LaserWriter  II  NTX  is  working
> fine with my other applications. I've tried other ways of viewing this  ps
> file, but my postscript graphics programs won't open it  (says  "offending
> command"). Moreover, Ready, Set, Go won't import it. Does  anyone  have  a
> suggestion as to how I can print this file?

You could try the LaserWriter Font Utility that comes on the LW disks.  That
gives you the ability to download a postscript file to the printer.

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:25:59 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q) Getting MacTCP Address

     (Q) Getting MacTCP Address
I need to locate a tool that will allow me to get MacTCP addresses over the
network.  InterPoll allows me to get AppleTalk addresses, but I need something
that allows me to do the same, but with MacTCP addresses.  I've had a number
of
machines that have changed locations, new machines, old machines on new
networks, and just a whole lot of changes, and now I'd like to update my
database of MacTCP addresses.  Besides this, I'd rather have a way of looking
for nodes that may have disappeared using the static MacTCP addresses rather
than the dynamic AppleTalk addresses.  TIA!

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853


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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 14:05:58 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Jamie R. McCarthy)
Subject: 3D rendering software opinions wanted

I'm looking for enlightened opinions on 3D rendering software.  The
August 1993 MacWorld reviews 21 packages, but only gives two or three
paragraphs to each product.  I'd like more detailed comparison &
contrast of the around-$1000 general-purpose products that are capable
of doing animation, namely:  Infini-D, StrataVision 3D, Swivel 3D Pro,
and maybe Macromedia Three-D.

I'm a little puzzled by MacWorld's comment that "Infini-D's modeling
tools are...inadequate for complex shapes and constructions," after
seeing the samples in the Absynthe Power Tools files on info-mac.
The spaceships certainly seemed rather complex to me.  And, I'm
intruiged by their mention of StrataVision's "skin tool that produces
flexible animated objects."  Can you create animal-like objects, whose
movements are based on bone movements, with skin moving realistically
over the bones?

If you've worked with one or more of these products--and especially if
you can compare Infini-D to StrataVision--drop me a line.  I'll submit
a summary to info-mac.
--
 Jamie McCarthy   Internet: [e-mail]   AppleLink: j.mccarthy

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Date: 13 Sep 1993 07:23:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <[e-mail]>
Subject: bootp for the Mac?

A faculty member asked me the question below:

>Do you know of any freeware or cheapware for Macintosh that will allow the
Mac
>to look up its IP address on a server?

This is in regards to a lab of 12 LC III's connected to Ethernet via a
FastPath V, plus a classroom of Centris 650's hooked up via their built-in
Ethernet.  All machines are running System 7.1.  The only 3rd-party extensions
I know of on these machines are Disinfectant 3.2 and SoftLock.

Please Email replies directly to me.  Thanks for any info you may have.

Mark Nutter
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 14:38:29 MET DST
From: [e-mail] ( PALLA)
Subject: Cable Quadra 700<->NEC 6FG 21"

I own a Quadra 700 and a Nec 6FG 21". I need to build a cable allowing me
to switch between the 21" resolution and the 16" resolution (so that I can
use the monitor in millions of colors). The monitor input must be BNC.
The cable they gave me is possibly faulty because when I switch to
millions of colors with the 16" resolution the image appears garbled
(strange stripes in B&W, etc.).

Please reply via private e-mail, I will summarize for the net if necessary.
Thanks in advance.

Paolo Sasso
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 09:11:23 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Colored MSWORD5.1a Bar

     Colored MSWORD5.1a Bar
[e-mail] (Priyajeev Narain Trika)

>I have heard of a certain shareware utility/extension/cdev/document which
>colorizes the icon pallete in MSWORD 5.1a.  Does anybody know of it?
>
>If so, could you pls tell me where i could get hold of it?


Sumex:  info-mac/app/word-color-toolbar.hqx

It's pretty cool!


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 10:29:12 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Peter Kay) (Peter Kay)
Subject: Cross Referencing in Word

This list has been very helpful in response to my request for cross-
referencing help in Word (I should have said version 5.0). All the
replies (thank you, everyone) really fall into 3 categories.

First, the original question (in digest #175):-

              **************

>I am just beginning to "write up" for my doctoral thesis and am using Word.
>
>Do you know if there is a way to "mark" a place in the text and have a
>page number reference to that place somewhere else, where Word itself
>keeps track of any change of page of the mark.
>
>I have scoured the manual for this, in vain. If there is no built-in
>facility for this, is there a workaround? Using a different word processor
>is not an option.

              ***************

Group 1.

    It's not possible! Use a different word processor.

Group 2.

    Quoted from ([e-mail] (John Antolak)):-

>1) Go to the place where you want to refer to.
>
>2) Insert an automatic page number.
>
>3) Format it as hidden text.
>
>4) Select it (must have show hidden text on).
>
>5) Copy it.
>
>6) Go to where you want to refer to the page number.
>
>7) Paste Special (Edit menu).
>
>Make sure that you choose "Picture" as the format of the paste special. You
>should also make sure that the "hidden" page number is always on the same
>page as what you want to refer to; i.e. make it the first or last character
>of the word.
>
>Be warned. This creates "external" links, which word asks you is you want
>updated every time you open the document. It also makes the file a lot
>bigger, and slower to use. I have no idea why it creates "external" links,
>perhaps because it has no "internal" links.

Group 3.

    Use WordRef. (Stored at the usual Mac sites.)

    I have now downloaded this, but not used it yet. I looks quite
    complicated.
            *****************

I hope this is useful to other Word users.



Peter Kay, School of Information Sciences,     (tel. no. 0707 284 358)
University of Hertfordshire, UK, AL10  9AB     ([e-mail])

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 14:01:56 MET
From: Wolfgang Hammerschmidt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Debinhexing on DOS machines?

A couple of days ago, I asked the combined intelligency of the net for an
application that would debinhex Mac files on a DOS machine. I summarize: the
file <binhex13.zip> (no quotes!) does it all. It is available via anonymous
ftp
>From wuarchive.wustl.edu in the directory /systems/ibmpc/msdos/mac or from
another ftp server. Ask you nearest archie server for the best location. I
would like to pass on the very nice hint by <[e-mail]
(Rouault Gilles)> who pointed me to an index which contains almost all
decompression programs/applications for almost any OS_system. The file is
called <compression> and it can be retrieved from <ftp.cso.uiuc.edu> from the
directory /doc/pcnet.

Thanks to everbody who responded that quickly!

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:58:33 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Default editor for TEXT files [R]

    Mark Hazen <[e-mail]> was looking for a solution to have
downloaded files opened by a more versatile text editor than TeachText. I have
simply modified the default file creator in Kermit (which I use for downloads)
but it should work for other comm programs too.
    What you have to do is fairly simple. You open your communication program
with a file editor, search for the ASCII strings for the creator (e.g. MACA
for
MacWrite in Kermit or obviously ttxt in your program) and replace it with the
creator of your text editor of choice (use a copy of the program!). This has
been working for me over the years without a hitch (using various versions of
Kermit). Make shure to test the modified app though!
    I wish that more programmers would allow you to define the creator of text
files e.g. in a preferences dialog.

    The other possibility may be to use a utility to map certain file creators
to another program. I think System 7 Pack! allows you to do something like
this.

Good luck!

Stefan

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 05:02:16 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Double Fonts in 7.1

This is probably something that's in the manual (which I misplaced), but
please bear with me anyway.  We recently received a number of Macs that
are running System 7.1 and wanted to have them using the same fonts that
our other Macs have rather than just the minimal set that 7.1 comes with.

I understand about creating font suitcases and putting them in the Fonts
folder, but one of the fonts, SanFranciscoLaser, shows up twice in the
Font menu of every application now.  Could this be because there were
additional files related to it besides the bitmap suitcase that were also
placed in the Fonts folder?

Thanks a lot!

keg

* [e-mail]   I've got plenty of opinions.  Just ask my wife! *

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 16:06:12 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jan Steinman)
Subject: Duo/Resolve Index() problem [Q]

Here's a goofy one for you. The exact, same Resolve file on my IIci and
a Duo 210 behaves differently. I assume it has to do with the lack of
an FPU, but I'm wondering if others have encountered it, and if there
are work-arounds.

I have an invoice template that I've been using successfully on the
IIci for some time. It has a column of dates, and the column next to it
has day names. That was easy in English, but I wanted to have German
without switching my entire Mac to German.

So I have a column of seven cells called "DayNames" that contain the
German days of the week, and my column next to the date column contains
the expression:

    =Index(DayNames, Mod(G8-2, 7), 0)

where "G8" refers to the date column. (I experimentally determined that
the Epoch occurred on a Tuesday. :-) This works just fine on the IIci,
but on the Duo I get (from Sep 1, for example, although the actual
value of the date column matters not) "Mittwoch Mittwoch Donnerstag
Samstag Sonntag Sonntag Dienstag". This same file, when moved to my
IIci, has seven different days in order, beginning with "Mittwoch".
Move the same file back to the Duo, bad day names again!

I've verified that the Mod() expression alone produces integers between
0 and 6, so the Index() function must be broken without an FPU, no?

 Jan Steinman, Bytesmiths <[e-mail]>
 2002 Parkside Court, West Linn, OR 97068-2767 USA, [phone]
 Friedlistrasse 19, CH-3006, Bern, Switzerland, [phone]

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Date: 13 Sep 1993 08:42:39 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Yoram Ney)
Subject: DynoPage 2.0 Problem

Hi!
I'm experiencing a problem using DynoPage 2.0:

When printing booklets, text is clipped at the end of some
lines. There can be half, one or two letters missing, not
necessarily in lines that end close to the margin. (i.e. a last
word on a 5-word line can be clipped, when a 10 word line just
above or beneath it is OK).

I also couldn't get enlarging to do anything. (In dynopage 'page
setup' when you can choose reduction/enlargement percentage).


I had none of these problems with DynoPage v1.7!!! (in fact I have
now installed 1.7 back).

Has anyone using DP 2.0 had the same problems? - is there a
solution??
Has anyone using DP 2.0 NOT had theses problems???


Thanks

Yoram

<[e-mail]>


BTW, I'm using a StyleWriter II.

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:26:32 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Electromagnetic Shielding f

     Electromagnetic Shielding for a Monitor
"Bill Wing" <[e-mail]> asks:

>We recently moved a large (19") monitor from one office to another, and
>find that in the new location the unit suffers from a bad case of jitters.
>I've seen the effect before, usually in offices with fluorescent lights
>which have been wired with large, uncompensated wiring loops.  I've always
>been able to kill the problem by repositioning the CRT, or killing the
>fluorescent lights and installing some sort of incandasent light in their
>place.  Alas, this time none of these methods work.  I used to see adds in
>the back of MacWEEK and MacWorld for external electromagnetic shields
>designed to clip on CRT's and protect the operator from excessive EM
>radiation.  Note that what I'm talking about is NOT the clip-on-the-screen
>filter sort of thing but a kind of hemispherical frame that wrapped around
>the top and sides of a CRT.  Obviously, if it can keep EM radiation in, it
>can keep EM radiation out as well.  Those adds seem to have disappeared now
>that everyone sells CRTs that meet the Swedish standards.  So
>(drum roll, The envelope please...) does anyone know where I could buy such
>a shield these days?

Well, they're still being advertised (check out p. 192 of the October 1993
MacWorld magazine).  The company is called NoRad and their phone number is
1-800-262-3260.  Their MacWorld ad lists three products:
    1.  ELF ProTech
      * First and only external ELF magnetic radiation suppressor
      * Absorbs up to 70% of ELF magnetic radiation all around the
        monitor
    2.  NoRad Shield
      * Blocks all electric and high-frequency magnetic radiation --
        more than any other screen
      * Ends glare, reflections, static
    3.  NoRad UltraGlass
      * Most radiation protection available from a glass filter
      * Superior optical quality, ends glare

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 17:21:04 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Constantin Kahn)
Subject: Ethernet-SCSI-adapters and MacTCP (Summary)

Hi,

I recently asked about other people's experiences with this sort of
Ethernet adapter when using MacTCP. There were some replies, and all the
adapters mentioned were reported to be fully MacTCP compatible (and
generally got good reviews from their users).

The following particular devices were mentioned:

1) Asante EN/SC for PowerBook (3 people)
2) Dayna Port SCSI/Link-3 (2 people)
3) Compatible Systems Ether+ (1 person)
   (It was mentioned that he power cord must be connected to the
   Ether+ before plugging the power supply into the wall. Otherwise
   the power supply fuse could blow.)

Thanks to all the people who took the time to reply.

Constantin Kahn

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:38:07 +0000
From: [e-mail] (andrew r jones)
Subject: European Apple CD-SC on 110V ?

Dear All,

I am about to move over to Tucson for a bit, and of course my mac comes
too! The mac itself is OK, but i have an Apple CD-SC which says on the case
that it wants 220-240V (50-60Hz) I also saw in MacWorld (sept93) that this
beast is one of the things wich wants only a single voltage. HOWEVER, just
be sure i opened up the box, and low and behold there is a SONY CR43 PSU
that says it works from 100-240V.

Now, does anybody know the true story behind this. I do not want to have to
bring extra junk with me, but i also do not really want to sell this drive
and then buy a new one unless i have to. I know that this is not the most
modern or fast CD rom drive, but it has been VERY reliable, and is very
nicely put together.

many thanks
andrew

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 13:47:59 PDT
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Excel problem w/32-bit addressing

Has anyone else seen this one?

Excel 4.0 takes 2.5 minutes to open on a fast Mac (50MHz accelerated Mac II
running System 7.1 with 20MB memory). Only takes that long if 32-bit
addressing
is turned on; otherwise, it takes its normally slow 30 seconds. I'm using
Mode32 to get 32-bit capability. I haven't been able to get the Apple 32-bit
enabler working right, so I don't know if it would have the same problem.

The Microsoft tech support person said they get alot of complaints about how
slow Excel loads, but had not heard of this problem before, or of it being
this
slow. Of course, he also was not planning to report the problem officially so
who knows how many other poor users out there have been reporting the problem
to other tech support reps who also didn't pass it along?

--Dave

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 9:54 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fonts with unusual symbols

There have been a couple of requests in recent Digests for fonts with
nonstandard symbols.  To people who are thinking of putting in such
questions, my advice is that if you're after something in the public
domain, the best way to start is to download the Hypercard-based catalog
for the extensive font collection at mac.archive.umich.edu.  If, after
having browsed through the stack, you still can't find what you're looking
for, then it might be an idea to post to the Digest.

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:32:39 +1200
From: "matt n." <[e-mail]>
Subject: font with... [A]

One person wanted a font with triangles that point to the right.

Another wanted a font with numbers in boxes.

You can have both with Zeal, part of the TrueType font pack from
Apple. (The numbers in boxes have to be "constructed" out of a
succession of three characters.)
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:37:19 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: FTP via SLIP

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> I'm still debugging my SLIP connection.  Since the only real method of
> transferring files is ftp, I'd like to get that working.  Unfortunately,
> it's not.  The throughput is abysmal, and occasionally it kind of "gets
stuck"
> and doesn't send anything.  My current setup is
>         PPI PM14400FXMT modem
>         MacTCP 1.1.1 with the retransmit patch
>         InterSLIP
>         Xferit
> I'm currently using the modem script for the PM144000FXMT modem on
interslip.

OK, first off, do you have TCP Header Compression turned on in InterSLIP
(and is it turned on for your SLIP account)? That can help performance.
Also, try setting the MTU size up to 1006 (the default) for best transfer
performance, and make sure your modem is using compression. I can't
remember the PPI modem exactly, but an init string of AT&F3 in the
modem init box should do the trick.

Try using Fetch instead of XferIt, just for kicks, and because Fetch
provides a bytes/second rating all the time.

Try using other SLIP programs like TurboGopher and Eudora to determine
if the problem lies with FTP only.

Try connecting to other FTP sites if you've only used one so far.
Some are slower than others.

With a Telebit WorldBlazer and a very similar software set (although
I have MacTCP 2.0.2, which isn't a big change), I get 1600+ bytes
per second with Fetch regularly.

Also, I've seen some instances where SLIP does just get stuck, but
I've generally attributed them to my host machine and just tried again
later. It's possible that MacTCP 2.0.3 will fix those problems.

> I know a guy with a PeeCee (bleah) who can get it working fine with about
> 2.9kps throughput, which would be extremely nice if I could get it working.

I've never seen that kind of speed, but remember, it makes a difference
if the file is compressed on the other end. The best I've seen was
transferring a BinHexed, but not compressed, document from MIT, when
I got 1800+ bytes/second.

cheers ... -Adam, author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh,
due out by the end of the month from Hayden Books... :-)

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 09:09:11 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Getting rid of Balloon help

     Getting rid of Balloon help in Menu Bar
[e-mail] asks:

>Can someone tell me how to recover the Menu bar space now being wasted by
>the little Balloon question mark?
>I was forced to System 7 when the Centris came in, but have otherwise been
>able to eliminate most of the cutesy things that one would not use after
>day one.

Try Speedy Finder.  It does many things, including an option to remove the
Balloon Help menu.  It also gives you options to do automatic emptying of the
trash, speedier copies, and keyboard equivalents for restarting, emptying the
trash, and making aliases.  You'll find it at sumex:
/info-mac/gui/speedy-finder7-154.hqx.


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 19:37:48 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alexander M. Davis)
Subject: Ghost external floppy drive--help!

My SE/30 seems to be convinced that it is connected to an external floppy
drive; every few seconds I get a "Disk unreadable" dialog with a picture
of an external drive. This happens even when I start up with a floppy,
both systems 6 and 7. Basically I can't do anything. Does anyone have an
idea what might be going on? Please respond by email, and thanks in
advance...

--
Alex Davis
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:20:46 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Randy Patton)
Subject: GML translator???

I'm currently in the process of weaning my colleagues from our university's
mainframe in favor of networked desktop computing.  This has been
relatively painless for the most part, but I still have a strong contingent
of holdouts who have years' worth of large manuscripts archived in GML
format on the mainframe.  These folks are understandably reluctant to
download hundreds of pages of text and spend precious hours digging out GML
tags and replacing them with WYSIWYG formatting in Word.

The question:  Does anyone know of an application, XTND translator or
similar beast that can translate GML text files into properly formatted
Word, WordPerfect or ClarisWorks files?

Thanks!

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:16:16 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Greater than signs in e-mail

David writes:
>I've noticed that when I read the digests (with Easy View 2.33, but of
>course...) certain words have "greater than" signs concatenated to their
>immediate left. For example, the word "from" comes out ">From". Other words
>(which don't quickly come to mind) do the same thing. Is this something

Eudora seems to have trouble breaking lines at a word beginning with "f",
for some strange reason. It will always substitute ">F". It's a bug, albeit
relatively harmless. I don't use EasyView, so I can't comment on it.

BTW, I think the moderators do a wonderful job sorting through the
mountains of bumpf they get and organizing and publishing it as fast as
they do. I'm quite happy to put up with a few oopses evry now and then.

Cheers
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
[e-mail]  604-291-4810    "My other computer is also a Macintosh."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 09:26:58 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: How to connect 2 LC III's to both modem and Grayshare printer (A)

>Does anyone know of an appropriate switch box (a source of same also would
>be appreciated)?  Surely, my daughter and her roommate are not the first
>to experience this problem.  Is there, for example an expansion card for
>the LC III that will supply an additional serial port (that the modem or
>the printer can find??)  Perhaps the expansion card would throw in an FPU??

Murph,
    Sounds like what you need is an X switchbox. This allows two
computers to share two devices, and switch between them. Black Box has them
for Mini 8-pin DIN. The part number is HG-SW342A, with a price of $88.
You'll probably need a couple of extra cables. From Black Box they would be
HG-EVMK8-0006-MM for $22.65 each, which sounds way high to me for a short
straight-through. You might be able to find the switch box cheaper
elsewhere at some Mac specific place, too, but I kind of doubt it. The
number for Black Box is [phone], or fax at 1-800-321-0746.

Bryan Walls                             My words are not NASA policy.
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 01:23:28 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #180

>Can anyone tell me how to uudecode on a Mac files that have been
>uuencoded on another platform?  Is there a specific application that does
>this?

You can find it via anonymous FTP on mac.archive.umich.edu in /mac/utilities
compressionapps/uulite*.hqx

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:21:57 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Rich Siegel)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #180

"Is there a PostScript file utility that works under System 7 analogous to
the SendPS utility.  Send replys to [e-mail]. I will summerize
for the net."

Try Drop*PS, available for anonymous FTP from world.std.com, in
/ftp/pub/bbedit, and also from sumex.stanford.edu, in /info-mac/text
(I think).

R.

--
Rich Siegel                              Internet: [e-mail]
Senior Software Engineer                 GCC Technologies

"Unfortunately, her brain doesn't work like one could reasonably expect it
to."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:48:22 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jamie R. McCarthy)
Subject: Is THINK C 6.0 really that bad?

[e-mail] (Pete Gontier) writes:
>Now I'll make another rash statement:
>Symantec is probably the biggest obstacle to the success of MacOS on
>PowerPC. Symantec could kill PowerPC/Mac.

As much as I love this platform, and as much as I've loved this C compiler
since version 3, and as much as I appreciate the valiant efforts of
Symantec engineers on the net, it pains me to say this:

I share Pete's fears.  And if we don't see a 6.0.1 in the next week or
three, it will be an ill omen for the future of Apple development.

It's a shame, too:  the Macintosh on PowerPC looks great, Bedrock looks
great, the new Sound Manager and the new Speech Manager and QuickTime
and AOCE and AppleScript are all great pieces of software on an
already-great platform.  But Apple has been telling us to write C++ code
for the last year;  now they're telling us that we'll have to write it
on a C++ compiler that has serious problems compiling C++.

This bodes ill.

6.0.1 doesn't have to nail every last bug.  Hell, I don't even care about
templates;  leave that for 6.0.2.  But fix the big stuff, and fix it soon!
--
 Jamie McCarthy   Internet: [e-mail]   AppleLink: j.mccarthy

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:18:20 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Alex Nemeth)
Subject: Looking For: Golf Scoring Program

>
>HI All,
>
>My Boss is looking for a Golf Scoring program. Does anyone know where one
>may be found?  He's tried using Archie to look around (using the keyword
>Golf) but what he's found isn't excatly what he needs.  He's looking for a
>program that will keep track of scores and figure in handicaps. Oh yes this
>is to keep track of the scores for members in his league.  He's not worried
>if it's Freeware/Shareware/commerical. It would be perferable if it was in
>Mac Format, but he's willing to accept a MS-Dos version.
>
>Thanks
>Alex

Alex Nemeth
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Sep 1993 11:17:50 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble)
Subject: Mac emulator on Silicon Graphics running IRIX 5 Indy (Answer)

[e-mail] (Christian Page) asked:
>I've heard a little about a mac emulator that would run on unix machines.

Here is a detailed reply to a similar question posted to sgi.com.
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(George Planansky) writes:
>|> The Indy press releases mention a Macintosh emulation capability
>|> and optional software that does this.
>|>
>|> If this is a full emulation of system 7, and the extra price is
>|> reasonable, then we might well get one or more of these magical Indy
>|> machines.  In fact, it would be nice to know how it compares, say, to
>|> a Centris 650 with 16 MB RAM, ethernet, 1MB VRAM, and a 17" NEC color
>|> monitor, right away <hopeful grin>.
>
>It is, in fact, the Mac emulation package from Quorum.  You may recall
>that Quorum pre-emptively sued Apple a year or two ago and won the right
>to emulate the Mac system interface and Mac apps on other workstations.
>
>The first version of Equal that is available on Indy supports (and ships
>with) both Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word.  No other apps have yet
>been formally tested by Quorum.
>
>I can't really judge the performance since it all depends on what you're
>trying to do.  Some things are pretty fast; others are pretty slow.  Best
>bet is to install the try and buy copy you'll get with your Indy and judge
>for yourself - no obligation.  Or, contact Quorum and let them tell you what
>they think the performances is.
>
>|> How much does the emulation option cost?
>
>I don't have the list price in front of me and I would hate to make a
>mistake, but I *believe* it's somewhere between $600 and $1200.  >Remember
>that includes Word, Excel, and the emulator.
>
>|> Will it run anything on a Mac floppy, or are there limitations?
>
>Again, Word and Excel are the only supported apps for emulation, at least
>at this time.  I understand from the Quorum folks that they can read and
>write Mac floppies.  And, Indy ships with the ability to read, write, and
>format Mac floppies.  Actually any Mac HFS media that can be read and
>written on Indy: floppies, flopticals, Syquest 88MB platters, CD ROMs (well
>we can read them).
>
>|> Will it do appletalk over ethernet?
>
>No, that feature is not provided in Equal.  There is another package that
>will be available shortly that will enable an Indy to use remote printers
>and share files on Mac servers.  This should be a low cost add-on.

Actually XINET already makes such a product, which I find excellent. (A.H.)

>|> Will it look like a Mac (server?) to other Macs?
>
>There is a Mac server package that runs on SGI systems available from
>Xinet in Berkeley, CA.  Email [e-mail] for more details.
>
>|> Has anyone tried this out?
>
>I've seen it run and played with it a bit.  Emulation is a difficult
>thing to get right and I think that Quorum has done some things very
>right and some others still need some tuning.  Try it yourself; with
>the try and buy, there's no obligation.
>
>These are personal opinions and conjectures only.
>
>Ken Klingman
>[e-mail]
>Silicon Graphics

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:23:36 +0200
From: "Olaf F. Normann" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacTCP 1.1 and System 7.1 (A)

>" Are there any problems running MacTCP 1.1 with System 7.1?

It depends on the configuration. You could try. Do you get problems,
you will need MacTCP 1.1.1

I used MacTCP on my IIci with MacOS 7.1, and it worked fine, exect for
MacX. In order to use MacX (i.e. to set up new remote commands) I needed to
upgrade to MacX v.1.2. which was bundled with MacTCP 1.1.1

-olaf

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:00:10 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MacTCP and 7.1

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Are there any problems running MacTCP 1.1 with System 7.1?

Apple claims there are, but frankly, I ran MacTCP 1.1 with 7.1 for
some time on my SE/30 before I moved up to 1.1.1 and then to 2.0.2,
which is the current version (although soon to be superceded by 2.0.3,
I hear, which is supposed to fix a timeout bug). I never noticed any
problems with MacTCP 1.1 under System 7.1 personally. There may be
problems with other Macs - that I don't know.

However, soon it will be easy to avoid MacTCP 1.1, since Hayden has
licensed MacTCP 2.0.2 for the disk that comes with my forthcoming
book (2.5 weeks and counting until release). I sent in the master
disk this morning, so I think I'm safe in saying this. :-)

So, you can buy MacTCP from MacWarehouse for $52, or you can get
The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh for about $25. Or, if you're
really poor, you can just stick with MacTCP 1.1 - if it works now,
you'll probably never know the difference. :-)

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:00:42 -0600 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (William Richard Jr Russell)
Subject: Modem Choice

Somebody asked about using choosing a modem for use with their
university.

I'm very happy with my US Robotics Sportster 14400 "Mac & Fax", a
Mac-packaged modem which I bought at a local computer store, $249, all
cables and Mac software included.

Before you can answer your question though, you need to ask yourself
some questions:

 - What speed does your school support? Do they go all the way up to
14400 bps, or are they on the 2400 bps standard? What are their plans
for expansion or upgrades to modem service?

If they use slow modems, a fast modem will do nothing for you. If they
have fast modems, or are planning to upgrade to fast modems in the
next year or two, then a fast modem is a good investment.

 - What non-data features do you need (FAX, etc)?

If the answer is "none", then don't waste extra money on a Fax modem
unless it is competitively priced with non-Fax modems.

 - How much money do you have to spend?

High-speed modems are about $230 or more; low speed 2400bps modems can
be had for $80 or less.

 - What special features (compression, error correction) do the school
modems support? What are they likely to support in the future?

Try to match your modem's features to those used by your school
wherever possible. The standard v42/v42bis error control/compression
protocol is very common, but not universal.

  *               Rick Russell [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:18:54 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: More strange problems printing pictures in Word 5.0

Fergus Lalor just reported problems printing figures imported from
ChemDraw into Word 5. We are also getting PostScipty errors occasionally
when documents with pictures are printed from Word 5 (System 7.1, Laser
Writer 8, Laser Writer II NT or Laser Writer IIg). The most notable
example was a figure imported into Word 5 without modification from an
old Word 4 document which used to print ok (I don't recall how the
figure was created originally).

Stefan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:55:27 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Multi-platform compression programs? [Q]

Someone asked me for a way to compress and de-compress files on both Macs and
PCs.  I presume they're looking for a program "like" MS Word (which runs on
both platforms) OR for 2 different programs (1 for Mac, 1 for PC) but which
use the same format for compression.

I (of course) am only familiar with the Mac side: StuffIt, Compactor, Disk
Doubler, PackIt, etc...  What I don't know is if there's a PeeCee program that
can deal with any of these formats.

Ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance,
Elliot Bennett
DLR, Cologne, Germany
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 12:25:13 -0400
From: John J Patten <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need assistance...

Forwarded message:

 ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello,
It's the network "wannabe" Guru again :)
I recieved so much good advice about the Mac Lc network, that I though I
would try again!
1.  I have been successful in setting up the SE 30, running Appleshare 2.0
and Apple Print Share 2.0, (no aristotle) server, and the 18 IIGS
computers...Yea!  However,  when I try to print from the IIGS it shows a
printing in process message but the printer doesn't print.?.  I can print
>From the SE 30.  I can't print from the IIGS.  Anybody have a clue?

2.  On the Mac network I would like to create HyperCard stacks that can be
multi-launchable.  I have heard of a program called EpsiTalk, but I was
wondering if maybe there is a XCMD out there or some scripting magic that
would enable our stacks to be multi-launchable on the network?

Thanks in advance,
John Patten
Lincoln Elementary School
San Bernardino Ca
92407
Internet:  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 Sep 1993 08:40:26 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: new disk drives - apple propoganda

[I think they mean "eject"]

o   New Version of Disk Drive in Macintosh Computers - FYI

Apple Computer, Inc. is scheduled to begin incorporating a new version of the
Apple SuperDrive floppy disk drive into Apple Macintosh desktop computers
starting this month.

The new Apple SuperDrive is functionally and electrically the same as the
existing Apple SuperDrive with the exception of a new manual inject feature,
which is very similar to the drive used in Apple's PowerBook computers today,
and a new protective dust cover that is designed to shield the Apple
SuperDrive
opening from floating dust particles.  Macintosh systems incorporating the new
drive have a slightly larger opening to the floppy drive to accommodate the
new
Apple SuperDrive.

The new Apple SuperDrive continues to incorporate the Macintosh personal
computer's popular auto-eject and auto-detect features, and accommodates 3.5
inch high-density and doubled-sided disks.

Significance:
The new Apple SuperDrive is designed to allow Apple to source industry
standard
components.  Apple believes it will be better able to respond to fluctuations
in customer demand as well as gain cost efficiencies that should translate
into
cost savings to customers.

Availability and Distribution:
Apple plans to begin transitioning current Macintosh desktop computer models
to
the new Apple SuperDrive floppy drive in September.  Apple also intends to
incorporate the new drive in future desktop models thereafter. For further
information, customers in the United States should call the Apple USA Customer
Assistance Center at [phone].  Customers outside the United States
should contact their local Apple representatives for information on
availability and distribution.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:05:20 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bill Barnett-Interdepartmental Laboratories)
Subject: Old Weird IIci

Hello Macpeople:

We have an elderly (4 yrs.) IIci that recently refused to boot (X face
instead of happy face).  When we looked inside there was a sea of dust
bunnies.  After vacuuming them out, the hard drive did boot (for the time
being - maybe no cause and effect) but all floppies formatted in this
machine cannot be read in any other Mac and any other formatted floppies
cannot be read by this machine (although it can read its own floppies OK).
So, my question is: Help please?!  Thanks for your assistance/comments.

    -Bill Barnett ([e-mail])  American Museum of Natural History

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:14:15 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Jim Bradley)
Subject: PowerBook 180c

Has anyone heard about a wider screen becoming available for the 180c?  My
boss just switched from his 180 and the screen is several inches thinner.
I know that they probably had to do this when switching from 640x400 to
640x480, but he's not real happy with the tiny icons and text.

Anybody heard about third party options?  Anything?

Jim

------------------------------

Date: 13 Sep 1993 21:24:40 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David Lerner)
Subject: QuickBASIC for Mac

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>Has anyone used Microsoft's QuickBASIC interpreter/compiler ? I need to
>do development of several small, stand-alone Mac applications and noticed
>the attractive price for this development package. How does QuickBASIC
>stack up against other Mac development environments ?


Quickbasic actually isn't bad, but it's really been abandoned by Microsoft
and is not supported much (no upgrades in years).  The intepreter/compiler
is not 32 bit clean, but it appears that programs compiled with it are 32
bit clean.


--

David Lerner/Tekserve Corporation/Macintosh service and repair/212 929-3645
163 West 23rd St, New York, NY 10011 USA/fax [phone]/[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 14:05:09 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Sridar Narayanan)
Subject: reference points in Word

Hi,

I don't know if this is exactly what you want, but a shareware program
called WordRef will let you insert cross-reference markers, as well
as bibliographic citations.  You can put a marker on a figure, for
example Figure <<dose_curve:++fig>>:  Percent depth dose ..
which will be auto numbered, and refer to it "as can be seen in
Figure <<dose_curve>>.  Similarly, you can insert citations, "Joe and
Blow have shown that ... [<<@Joe89>>, <<@Blow90>>]."  The formatted reference
will appear in you bibliography, and is extracted from a database stored
in BibTeX format.  You could do section numbering in a similar way.
I don't know how to handle the page number question, unless you can
use Word's indexing utility.

WordRef 1.4.1 is $25 shareware and is available on sumex.

Good Luck,

Sridar

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 02:50:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dimitrios Diamantaras)
Subject: Send PS to LW 310? (Q)

OK MacFolk, I posted the same question in comp.sys.mac.apps with no
answer. Maybe someone can help me over here...

I need to send PostScript files to a LW 310 printer over its serial
connection from my Mac. I have tried LW Utility and LW Font Utility, but
they refuse to deal with this printer (I guess because it is not connected
via AppleTalk). I have also found SendPS but it's an old version and
sulks in a similar manner. Same problem with the newer Drop.PS. Is there
any hope for this project of mine? The printer has 5.5 MB of memory, so
I don't quite get it when I try to open the file in Word, select all, and give
it the PostScript style and print, I get an error... (So, you see, I have
even tried this strange method.)
Could you send me email, net news arrive here with quite a delay during
the work week...
Thanks in advance for all replies!

Dimitrios Diamantaras

------------------------------

Date: 13 Sep 1993 16:49:59 GMT
From: baum/[e-mail] (Christopher F Baum)
Subject: ShowPages replacement?

Netters-- I received helpful information from the net this spring which led
me to ShowPages 1.4.1, a tool for sending PostScript to the printer without
running it through a wordprocessor. But I find that ShowPages no longer is
happy with my current configuration of System 7.1 and PSWriter (or
LaserWriter) 8.0. Is there another utility that you would recommend to
provide this service? Thanks.

Christopher F Baum
baum/[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 11:51:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Size of System File

I just installed a Stylewriter II on a Classic II and discovered that the
System file is over 3 meg.  Will this cause a problem?  (The machine is
running System 7.0.1 with Tuiner 1.1.1.)

If so, should I remove all the bitmap versions corresponding to TrueType
fonts?  What is a safe size for the System file?

This is probably a FAQ but I'll be grateful for an answer.

Sincerely, Bill Reynolds
([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 19:08:47 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Sound Manager 3.0 problem (R)

>I installed the Hardware System Update 2.0 on my Centris 650 and IIvx with
the
>Easy Install option.  With extensions off, the sound control panel works
fine,
>but if I let my extension/control panels load, opening the sound control
panel
>results in either a bomb box with a bad F-line or a complete blanking of the
>screen and a frozen system (the mouse moves the pointer but that's it).
>MacCheck, Disk First Aid 7.2, and Norton Utilities 2.0 report no problems.
>Rebuilding the desktop doesn't help, and even disabling the "Record button"
>and
>"Sound Manager" with Extension Manager 2.0 doesn't help either.
>
>The Centris has system 7.1, 8 megs RAM, 32 bit and VM off, with the following
>extensions/control panels: Virex 4.0, Norton Backup 2.0, EM extension 2.0, CE
>toolbox 1.6.1, Quicktime 1.6.1, Remember 2.3.2, Adobe type align 1.03, ATM
>3.0,
>After Dark 2.0w, BeHierarchic 1.05, Kolor 2.0, Quickeys 2.1.2, AdminLAT 1.2,
>AdminTCP 1.1.1, MacTCP 1.1.1, LAT 1.2, DECnet control 1.2, Filesaver 2.0 and
>other routine system 7.1 stuff.
>

Barry,

I'm not sure what would be causing your crash. It may be an incompatibility
with some of the Control Panels and Extensions you're using. Here are the
latest version of some of the out of date s/w you're using.

    Extension Manager       2.0.2
    After Dark              2.0x
    MacTCP                  2.0.2

I hope this helps. Good luck.

-- Vinko
Vinko Enterprises, Oakville, Ontario, Canada, ALink: CDA1051

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:38:32 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <[e-mail]> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Sound Viewer

I probably new this at one time, but I can't get the old brain to
cooperate.  What sound "viewer" application is most appropriate for use
with Gopher.  It doesn't have to be freeware or shareware, but it does have
to work reliably under system 7.

Suggestions?

<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:42 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sumex directory organisation (complaint) (C)

David Herren writes in Digest #180:

>Am I the only one who dislikes the "new" organization of the sumex
>directories?

Oooops.  No sooner does Liam Breck return from his much-needed holiday
(sorry, "vacation") than a stiff complaint appears!

>What was wrong with looking for DAs under DAs? Control Panels under Control
>Panels? At least then you had a pretty good idea. I mean, SuperClock. Hmm.
>It effects the user interface of my computer. It is a means of configuring
>my computer. It's a utility thing. It's all of these things. It is a
>Control Panel. It is NOT an application.

Well, SuperClock is almost certainly a misfiling.  Under the new hierarchy,
I THINK it ought to go in /cfg.  But then the new hierarchy confuses and
annoys me too, as Liam well knows through the numerous debates we've had
(internet Talk is a wondrous thing!).  Liam's view - and I'll be brief as
I'm sure he'll want his own say - is probably that classifying stuff by
file type is a bad idea because it requires people to know in advance what
something IS, eg extension vs control panel, application vs desk accessory,
hypercard stack vs text document etc.  Hence the overwhelming emphasis in
the new structure is on what something DOES.

My main problem with this approach is this has resulted either in over-
classification, in which a category is whittled down into very fine sub-
categories, or in some cases has led to the creation of groupings with an
very broad sweep.  My pet peeve as far as the latter is concerned is
/info/nms, which is a repository for just about anything under the sun
that isn't about Macs.  This doesn't sound so bad, except that under the
old system, one could find a Hypercard stack of Shakespeare sonnets under
Hypercard, which to me seems eminently logical.  Now it goes in /nms.
Furthermore, if one accepts the logic that documents which aren't about
Macs should go in /nms, then most QuickTime movies, graphics and sounds
ought to be there as well, not classified by file type as they still are.
In any case, I do believe that people who are searching for such material
tend to know in advance what the format is - they've heard that someone has
done a Hypercard version of an old novel, or constructed some fancy
animation and turned it into a QuickTime movie.  And even if there are
some who do trawl the archives on spec for such material, it still helps
to search by file type, not look under the generic umbrella of /nms.

I have other gripes but I've said enough for now.  I know this is in a
sense trying to shut the stable door with the horse bolting down the lane,
because I ought to have voiced my misgivings when this was first being
thrashed out six months ago.  But I was too busy then, and still am, which
is why I ought to stop here.  Liam?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 21:07:18 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: sumex directory organization (complaint) (A)

On 10 Sep 93 09:05:24 PDT David Herren writes:


>Am I the only one who dislikes the "new" organization of the sumex
>directories? I used to be able to find things in under a minute. Now is
>seems I have to search and search and search  . . .

>What was wrong with looking for DAs under DAs? Control Panels under Control
>Panels? At least then you had a pretty good idea. I mean, SuperClock. Hmm.
>It effects the user interface of my computer. It is a means of configuring
>my computer. It's a utility thing. It's all of these things. It is a
>Control Panel. It is NOT an application.

Ditto. Our "new improved" organization is ambiguous, recondite & downright
konfuzzin. Some folders are humongous others just a dribble & with lots
more folders & ali-asses a longer wait while Eudora generates the
directories ;-(

r o b e r t

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 10:44:21 +0200
From: R.A.Varela <[e-mail]> (Ramiro A. Varela)
Subject: Summary: advise on small MAC/PC network

A few days ago a requested advise on how to build a small Mac/PC network
and share some laser and inkjet printers. I would like to thank Povl
Pedersen, Jonathan and Larry Pickett who gentle submit their suggestions.
Special thanks to Lars Bertelsen, who took the time to explain in detail
both the hardware and software sides of the problem.

Now for the solutions proposed: Almost all of the suggestions involved
buying Ethernet cards for the Macs and PeeCees, and the choice of a 10BaseT
network (a hub is then needed) seems also to be a good one. To attach the
printers to the network three main choices were mentioned:
a) an special adapter box (drivers for sharing the the DeskWriter 550C with
the PCs may be difficult to find...can anyone confirm this point?)
b)using the Desjet for the PCs, the Deskwriter for the Macs and share only
the laser printer. I assume that if the PC users need the color
capabilities of the 550C, they should save their text/pictures in (e.g.)
postscript format and send them over the network to one Mac, where the
effective print will take place.  This is perhaps the weak point of this
solution.
c) Setting up one Mac as a bridge between an apple talk network and an
Ethernet network. This Mac should have the printers attached to it. This
solution implies the use of fairly expensive software such as Apple
Internet Router or LiaAison.

I also understood that the VAX could be used as a file/printer server if
its OS would be UNIX, which is unfortunately not the case. I do not know
(still) if VMS has the same ability. That's for the hardware.

About the software, a crucial decision must be done. If only file transfer
will be needed, a communication program like Timbuktu was suggested. I file
sharing capabilities are needed, well, Novell netware server is the winner
because of its Mac/PC compatibility.

Finally,  Quickmail was suggested to send/receive mail along the network.
As a reference, I also recommend reading the MacWorld articles of April and
May 92 about moving up to Ethernet and how to choose a hub.  I think this
all together is a good starting point for beginners like me!
Thanks again to all that contribute to this little report.

Ramiro A. Varela
GHER Universite de Liege
B5 Sart Tilman
B-4000 Liege (BELGIUM)

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:49:00 BST
From: [e-mail] (Roger Oliver) (Roger Oliver)
Subject: System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting

We have a community of Macs of various types from Pluses to Centris 610s
that share several LaserWriterIIs over a LocalTalk network. The printers
are spooled usng the AppleShare spooler. We want to keep most of the
Plus/SEs on System 6 and the rest on System 7. My question is "can these
users all share the same printers with and without background printing".
I've had conflicting advise on this queston. Secondly, if the answer is yes
"are specific combinations of Finder, Laser prep/driver and spooler
software necessary; if so which?"

Thanks,

Roger ([e-mail])

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Date: 13 Sep 1993 21:21:36 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David Lerner)
Subject: The Well

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>What is the email address for the well.  I have a friend there, and need to
>drop him a line.  TIA

[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 15:48:12 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Norman Chretien)
Subject: URGENT ADB KEYBOARD PROBLEMS! HELP! (A) (C)

Someone recently posted instructions for opening and cleaning a keyboard,
which included the warning:

>As always, don't shuffle your feet on wool carpet (or any other movement
>that creates static) while working with the keyboard. Just sit down, open
>it, touch the circuit board to equalize your potential with the keyboard,
>do what you need to do and then put it back together again.

DO NOT TOUCH THE CIRCUIT BOARD!

Although doing so will indeed equalize your potential with the keyboard, it
may also render it somewhat dead.  Service technicians work in relatively
static-free workrooms and are constantly grounded along with any equipment
being repaired.  The goal is to get your potential equal to the circuit's
potential _before_ any contact is made.  If you are unsure about how to
accomplish this, you may be better off paying to have the keyboard
repaired.

You may be able to clean the key's contacts by spraying a small amount of
electronic contact cleaner, or tuner cleaner (available at Radio Shack or
other electronics store), under the key of the unopened keyboard.  Tap the
key a few times and test.  Try again if no results.  If that doesn't work,
you should be able to remove the screws, place the keyboard upright on a
desk, and lift the cover off without touching the circuit.  Then you might
get a better spraying angle under the key.  Tap the key and test again.  If
it works, replace the cover, flip the keyboard over, and replace the
screws.  If it doesn't work, replace the cover, flip the keyboard over, and
replace the screws, and visit your Apple service center.

Good luck,
Norman Chretien

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 14:10:13 EDT
From: Michael Kazlow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word, Nisus, others for Thesis(A)

Normand Beaudoin asks about a choice of Word Processors for a thesis, where
you can't afford to make a mistake.


Normand,
To a large extent your choice may depend on the requirements of your field
and your school. That beind said I would not recommend a WP, but Framemaker
which is a Desktop publishing package with an integrated wordprocessor with
extensive cross-referencing and long document handling capability. It also
has an integrated mathematics expression capability and a object drawing
capability. It is supported on the Mac, Windows, and Unix ennvironments
with the ability of each platform to work and print the other environements
files.

I own Word 5.1, WordPerfect 2.1.4, and Nisus as well. Each have things they
excel in. But for a thesis Frame would be the package of choice. It handles
Tables, cross-references, foot and endnotes, sections, subsections, automatic
numbering across files. It is easy to enforce style choices across files
to ensure a uniform look. I used to to publish a 400+ page proceedings
>From a conference. Frame is not the easiest program to learn or use. But you
can start with it and learn as you need. It can go back and reformat your
old material to your new standard as it changes. If you can't afford to go
wrong it is the one program I would choose. If you need a program with the
best tech support around Wordperfect would be my next choice, since Word
does not support numbering of tables and figuires. Wordpefect 3.0 is due
next month, as should provide cross platform support, and finally provide
a easier interface than the present version.


... Mike K.

FROM:MICHAEL KAZLOW [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:12:58 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Word processors

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Dear Netters,
> has anyone made a good comparison of these three word processors in terms of
> features?

No, because there's not much comparison.

> For anyone still looking for a simple and fast word processor, at least now,
> nobody can beat the price MacZone is selling WriteNow 3.0 at:  $35.98 +
> shipping and handeling of $3.  See there current catalog (with sale dated to
> end September 15th).  1-800-248-0800.   I mention this as people can't seem
to
> decide whether Nisus or MS Word is better, from what I read here, and I
> thought WriteNow would be some interesting fuel to add to the debate.

WriteNow is a great word processor, but just doesn't have the same
level of power as Nisus or Word. There's nothing wrong with that,
but it's a different tool.

> I have used WriteNow for 3 years now, finding the spell checker extremely
> fast, though from what I hear Nisus uses many of the same features as
> WriteNow.  So what can Nisus do more than WriteNow in addition to multiple
> undos and multi-document searches not being on WriteNow?

Well, there's the macro language, the full programming dialect, discontiguous
selection, table of contents and indexing (WriteNow may do these,
I don't feel like checking at the moment), internal graphics program,
the ability to place one page within another (sized appropriately),
and many other things. Believe me, Nisus can do a lot more than WriteNow
since it's designed differently. That doesn't mean that you need Nisus
- many people should stick with something as simple as WriteNow. But
when you need GREP searching and macros and discontiguous selectio,
you NEED Nisus. That's all there is to it.

And yes, I'm biased. I just wrote a book in Nisus, and converting into
Word format to send to my publisher gave me hives. :-)

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:53:28 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Write Now and Nisus

A Brody asks what Nisus can do that WN can't. WN is an excellent fast
program for straightforward wordprocessing: letters, memos, term papers and
so on. I stopped using it primarily because it didn't do endnotes and I got
fed up with the manual workaround. When you want your colleagues to read
your printouts, footnotes are the thing. But professional printers want the
text on these pages and the notes on those ones (even if the end product
will have footnotes), so you need the facility to change all footnotes to
endnotes (and back again). Neither WriteNow nor FullWrite can do this.
Nisus and Word can. Can't remember about WordPerfect, but probably it can
too.

WriteNow doesn't have a drawing module, macros, grep-style search/replace,
or book tools like indexing and tocs. You may use it for longer and more
complex documents, but if you try Nisus you won't go back.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 21:03:55 -0400
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I'm more than willing to agree with anyone who says that WriteNow is the
best buy available.

There are still some things that I haven't been able to do with it.
1. Indexing, Tables of Contents, Outlining etc.
2. Print Ms Word documents without screwing up the pagination and headers.

I believe Nissus has true foreign language support, e.g. text processing in
Hebrew or Arabic with right to left text etc.

WriteNow is great for most tasks, but it does lack some features of those
really big programs.  This is also one of it's best selling points as  it
--
Josh Kuperman                      Saratoga is almost like heaven. I think it
[e-mail]          probably is heaven actually. I imagine
                   when I die and go to heaven, I'll probably
                   go to Saratoga - Leo O'Brien

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